[UPDATE POST - JULY 29TH]

[spellbindmods]

OOC NOTES

▢ Finally! The IC date has been added to the Google calendar, which you can see starting in August. The older days will be added sometimes soon, but for now the dates are added and will be added a month at a time so you can keep track of what IC day it is! And so can I since I keep fuckin it up ▢ The most important OOC note is about a few concerns brought up about the recent ruling involving Fate/ canons. When asked about whether or not all Fate/ canons would be lumped into one category under the six cast cap. The initial decision was that since Fate/ canons do differ in some ways and exist on different timelines (at least some do, some are continuations and universes where new characters exist with old ones, like Fate/Grand Order), that they would all be considered separately. While it may be unfair to limit all Fate/ canons to just six slots, it's also unfair upon further reflection to say that individual Fate/ canons and timelines can all have six slots -- this creates a potential scenario where if even four different Fate/ iterations app in at cast maximum, that's 24 characters in a 120 character cap game. Logically, this defeats the purpose of having caps when the point of these caps was to initially limit problems like this from occurring! This also brought up the possibility of this problem occurring in the future, Fate/ aside - for canons conglomerates like MCU, should each superhero film franchise in the ensemble be allowed a six character cap? This is another situation in which a universal canon that still has iterations with different time periods and characters can get around the six character cast cap with little issue. Still, the issue exists that limiting large canon franchises with so many characters and many different possibilities and timelines can be unfair to those who want to play from different canons but can't because the cap on a canon is actually a cap on an entire franchise. The original ruling was made thinking about how fair it would be for people in this situation, but that still doesn't negate the fact that the fairness for potential and current applications should also be considered. At the end of this TL;DR are a few question for the game and others: do you believe that a heightened franchise cap should be implemented? If so, how do you feel about a limit of 8-10 characters per franchise? Also, do you feel as if this should apply to all franchises, like Tales of..., Persona or Fire Emblem? The point of this discussion is to get a feel for where everyone is at with this issue and who these stipulations should potentially extend to. There will be a separate thread for this discussion, so please respond here. This discussion is open to those already in game and those interested in applying! This will be considered quickly and limitations will be put in place for the upcoming app round, and this issue at large will be addressed again on the September 1st game poll. Finally, as head mod writing this all up, I do want to apologize to those who feel inconvenienced by the need to discuss this, whatever the outcome, and for the original decision that has led to this discussion. Hopefully we can come together and figure out what is best for the game at large, though of course no one can ever be 100% happy with limitations like these. Also anonymous comments will be screened just for the safety of player discussion! ▢ The TDM is right here and can still be used! Feel free to tag around existing characters or test out your own characters here. ▢ Finally, don't forget to get your AC in. AC is being tabulated with results being posted tonight. Remember: since all characters are new, AC is halved! If you have trouble putting your links on the spreadsheet, ask a friend or PM your threads to the mod account and they can be placed for you. Also, reminder: if you posted to the game's opening test drive, that can also count as your AC Bonus.

IC EVENTS

▢ While the Palai are still revering the coven members, the fervor surrounding their arrival has simmered down a bit. The Palai will still offer them gifts and food, but being harassed in public will be downgraded to a sort of awe from a distance. ▢ Some characters have and are planning on exploring the island at the top of the ocean, and they may be bringing back information and items from this mysterious place. When this happens, and if they share it with the Palai, the fervor will come back a bit -- they're excited by the prospect of more items, and also impressed by the coven's ability to do what they couldn't. How they'll react to this on a larger scale will be discussed next week. ▢ Some Palai may have discussed the Uvi with coven members, but if they didn't before they most certainly will now. The Palai hide in their homes during the evening when the Palai come, and that is occurring rather soon -- on August 8th OOCly. Not only will the Palai ask that coven members gather supplies for themselves, but brave Palai will ask that coven members help them fill their own homes as a thanks for their hospitality. This includes many different outdoors activities, usually in their farming territory -- pulling vegetables, washing food, catching shrimps and fish. There's a lot of work to be done so that the Palai can stay indoors for 48 hours to make sure no one is hunted by the Uvi. ▢ Starting on August 1st, dead fish that have been decapitated will begin falling from the sky in regular intervals. Some of these will be fish the size of catfish or trout, while others are sharks and larger fish of prey. The Palai have no idea why this is occurring or who may be behind it, but it certainly has them spooked!

IMPORTANT DATES

▢ Reserves are open now and apps open on August 1st. Remember that Spellbind is a game that has apps open for 5 days, not 7! ▢ EMP is today, so look around for potential castmates there. ▢ Keep track of the calendar here!

Comments

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[genice]

With the "case by case" caveat for things that get a bit complicated, as discussed in above examples, but figuring out what a franchise versus a stand along series is would be nice. (Like are MCU movies and MCU television shows and/or DC to be grouped as one franchise? I'd think two, simply for the divide in what characters you'll see in the films versus just in a TV series, etc, but #yolo and honestly not sure if it'll ever actually be an issue.)

[probablynoteren]

Personally I would group Marvelverse and DCverse both under franchise cap. There are a ton of AUs and mediums and so on, of course, but a lot of the characters are still based on the same core concept even if they're interpreted differently or in a different medium. As the commenter above you noted, this can also create problems if you're trying to app a character but have to decide which cast cap to use up a slot in.

Also, as mentioned above I believe only one version of a character is allowed, so separating out movies and TV shows gets a bit confusing -- they're still part of the same universe and refer directly to each other, so... Hm. I'm inclined to say it's best to go the simple route and consider stuff like Agents of Shield and Daredevil part of the larger Marvel franchise (I keep talking about Marvel because I'm a DC noob :Da).

[genice]

LAUGHS NO ITS FINE I'm not trying to be devil's advocate, it's literally just food for thought. Keeping things simple always makes sense! Being aware of like. Hm. The wide array of characters we get in any franchise is of course kind of the same, but I'd say that the more independent series (Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, I think Iron Fist?) cross over with each other in ways that should lump 'em all together, where-as the movies cross over with each other in ways that lump them all together. I'd still max cap both at more like... 6... not saying we need 20 MCU in game HAHAHA NO. But having some separation for maximum spread, if one wanted.

I have no pony in this race, though, it's me thinking and rambling while tired.

[probablynoteren]

Nah, I get you! It's good to bring up these things for thought and discussion since it's a big decision so looking at all the variables is helpful.

I think especially with the big comics-based verses, spreading it out by movies, then TV shows, and then you'd probably need to divide out the comics too in that model -- so you'd end up with a minimum of 18 character slots from either Marvel or DC verse. Also there's the cartoon spinoffs... So that's where my concern lies -- it's a similar conundrum to Fate/verse, in that there's shared worldbuilding and/or playing with the same character concepts (though Fate is more connected character-wise), and also that the franchise itself is big enough that dividing it in too granular a way could open the door to taking over the game. It might not necessarily! But it's sort of a thought that it's best to be consistent with the big, relatively interconnected franchises. Star Wars and Star Trek are other big ones.

[genice]

Not to mention with comics you have legitimate AUs..............

And now with Star Wars there's the current EU and the older EU what would you EVEN DO WITH THESE THINGS!

In the end though it feels like a lot of this self-regulates based on not having massive numbers of app ins, and right now the tilt of the game seems less to western media and more toward eastern........ and Fate / is such a sprawling mess, it's much the same thing.

I say this while backing away from Fate / going "i understand like. two percent of you, you being of utter madness... keep being you"